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forumposter123@protonmail.com's avatar

Thanks for the post.

1) I was in Japan a long time ago, but my general impression is that they held foreigners to a lower standard of behavior. "Of course those degenerate foreigners wouldn't mask." Combine this with a non-confrontational attitude and a feeling that tourists are not some kind of permanent problem and basically they just let it go and keep their disapproval internal.

This isn't a problem if you're a visitor but can be more of a problem if you tried to live and work in Japan, especially if you weren't a special person in any way. One reason there is such a low % of people who move permanently to Japan is they figure this out. That internal disapproval will later come out in lots of passive aggressive ways.

2) I'm not sure what the difference between "trust" and "trust-worthiness" is supposed to be.

3) I don't see what "trustworthiness" has to do with Pearl Harbor.

Obviously, Japanese are trustworthy to "insiders". The people in the attack fleet could all trust each other to do their duty and not send a message to Washington. They could trust each other to risk death for their comrades.

Japanese trustworthiness is a kind "state capacity". What that capacity gets used for is contextual.

4) Japan has never been averse to high skill immigration, but not many high skill people want to immigrate there because of #1. I don't think, and remain hopeful, they won't make the same mistake with low skill immigration that Sweden did.

5) I tend to think the internal dynamics of Imperial Japan made war with China inevitable, but it might not have been with the west.

As to what it might look like, aren't places like South Korea or Taiwan good examples. These were authoritarian states focused on technocratic capitalism with fake or severely curtailed democracies (in many ways Japan too, which has been dominated by the LDP in a so called "one and a half party system").

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javiero's avatar

About Japan being one of the most militaristic countries in the world, I don't think that "militaristic" represents any kind of deep human feature, but the superficial product of other deeper features. Japanese people are not "otakuistic", but they collectively have some characteristics that manifest in being otaku. At least some of them.

Modern military forces rely on discipline. Drill and drill and more drill. Trust your comrades, trust your superiors.

I don't think Japanese people were ever "militaristic", they were simply disciplined and trustworthy. Were the Japanese people too trusting in their military elite, a very aggressive elite to be sure, that lead them into an expansionist war? Sure. But that is different from saying that Japanese people were militaristic and are now pacifistic.

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