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"$13k/child/year"

Average spending k-13 is higher. More like $16/$17k. Wildly distributed, most of the high COL states in in the $20k+ range. My own district spends $22k.

"Daycare" is the wrong metric. Infants and toddlers need low student/teacher ratios. I'd look a the cost of private schools that operate outside the elite space. They average $5k for K-8 and $12k for high school. The private school in our area costs a little under half what our school district spends, this seems to be a common pattern.

In Florida they gave people $8k vouchers and it appears to be wildly popular.

I think it likely that a school voucher system would cost about half what we currently spend, saving at least $8k per kid and more in the high COL areas.

"you might as well try to do something useful with that time"

Why? I would prefer my kids spent half the day in recess playing rather then sitting in boring and useless classes were they learn little.

"At a societal level, If the requirement that all students take biology in high school increased the odds by 5% that we would have an mRNA vaccine for COVID-19"

What are the odds some kid with a below average or even average IQ is going to discover an mRNA vaccine. It ain't 5%. You track these kids and give appropriate material to them based on their ability level and interests.

"Without free public schools, I’d expect we would return to a world where many more families would only have one working parent."

If that made sense. They might use the voucher for a private school or they might use it to homeschool.

"I’d guess it would also decrease birth-rates."

Why? Seems to me homeschool parents have way higher TFR. Making one parent work to pay the taxes to send their kids to schools that don't even provide a service the parents like seems fertility reducing.

"but it would certainly reduce the tax base"

That's true, but maximizing taxes doesn't maximize society.

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The thing that gets my goat is how many useful things could be taught but are not. For example, nowhere is the structure of a company or its typical functions taught. I was 25 before I knew what the difference was between sales and marketing. Or projects that simulate what working in different functions would be like. If the goal of school is to help people figure out what they want to do with their life, then the current approach seems pessimal for that -- keeping them away from employment, ignorant of what industries there are and how they work, studying old english literature and european history instead of biographies of successful entrepreneurs.

And the above is just about "what you want to be when you grow up". If you expand the scope to "skills that will be useful in your life", e.g. changing a car tire before you're stuck on the side of the road, the universe of things goes way up. And how much more interested would kids be in that sort of learning! And instead they sit in classrooms with a required Masters of Ed lecturing to them.

With just a little imagination and self-reflection, I find it wild that more people aren't outraged about the status quo.

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