You are citing their views on abortion and same sex marriage and from that establishing a view on whether they are liberal?
My best friend is Arab, born here, school teacher parents. I know his whole family and extended family, been to about fifty weddings.
1. Try to marry into that family or any of the families if you are not just Arab but from their specific nation of family origin, if you are not Muslim you will be required to PAY to go to a re education with the woman you want to marry and you will be converted before marriage.
2. Try shaking a woman's hand
3. Ask them how many openly gay relatives they have, not are they okay with other people being gay.
4. If Arab and Muslim ask how many daughters were allowed to marry non Muslim men - see the religion passes from the father in their culture so no problem for the men to go out and marry non Muslims (Well there will be problems, she will be endlessly shit talked behind her back)
This is not a Arab Muslim thing though in my opinion, this is basically an everyone but white people thing because only white people are not allowed to still act this way openly (They probably want to, but there is a great deal of public shame involved if they do)
Now also go hang out with my Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Jewish friends and try to marry into those families. I think a lot of beautiful young women can tell you many stories about meeting the oh so progressive young men of these cultures, born in the United States first generation and how they could come to dinner, they could date, but if it came to marriage there were a million subtle ways the family would work against them. Veiled phrases like they will have trouble understanding you, or fitting in and so on. Also, if you are let in, you will be forced into adapting to their culture.
Even being a Korean trying to marry into a Japanese family is still taboo.
Had a friend dated a wonderful Jewish lawyer in Chicago for three years till the day she suggested they might get married, suddenly then she was uninvited "accidentally" from all the family gatherings. The son suddenly was offered a very lucrative parnership route with a second cousins law firm that unfortunately meant he just wouldn't have any time anymore, he was married off to a nice Jewish girl 18 months later.
Truth is we are the only ones NOT worried about preserving our culture.
You are citing their views on abortion and same sex marriage and from that establishing a view on whether they are liberal?
My best friend is Arab, born here, school teacher parents. I know his whole family and extended family, been to about fifty weddings.
1. Try to marry into that family or any of the families if you are not just Arab but from their specific nation of family origin, if you are not Muslim you will be required to PAY to go to a re education with the woman you want to marry and you will be converted before marriage.
2. Try shaking a woman's hand
3. Ask them how many openly gay relatives they have, not are they okay with other people being gay.
4. If Arab and Muslim ask how many daughters were allowed to marry non Muslim men - see the religion passes from the father in their culture so no problem for the men to go out and marry non Muslims (Well there will be problems, she will be endlessly shit talked behind her back)
This is not a Arab Muslim thing though in my opinion, this is basically an everyone but white people thing because only white people are not allowed to still act this way openly (They probably want to, but there is a great deal of public shame involved if they do)
Now also go hang out with my Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Jewish friends and try to marry into those families. I think a lot of beautiful young women can tell you many stories about meeting the oh so progressive young men of these cultures, born in the United States first generation and how they could come to dinner, they could date, but if it came to marriage there were a million subtle ways the family would work against them. Veiled phrases like they will have trouble understanding you, or fitting in and so on. Also, if you are let in, you will be forced into adapting to their culture.
Even being a Korean trying to marry into a Japanese family is still taboo.
Had a friend dated a wonderful Jewish lawyer in Chicago for three years till the day she suggested they might get married, suddenly then she was uninvited "accidentally" from all the family gatherings. The son suddenly was offered a very lucrative parnership route with a second cousins law firm that unfortunately meant he just wouldn't have any time anymore, he was married off to a nice Jewish girl 18 months later.
Truth is we are the only ones NOT worried about preserving our culture.