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Mak Friedman's avatar

I find it hard to square your conclusions with what is actually happening on the ground all over Europe. That is, the rise of populist political parties that are strongly anti-immigration (primarily with respect to Muslims), including proposals not only to essentially end it but to deport (a la Trump) migrants already residing in the host country. These parties are usually the second or third most popular party in these states, with fractured polities, and are even part of the governing coalition. Many of the "mainstream" parties are now adopting serious restrictions on migration to co-opt support from the populists. I dunno, call me crazy, but it seems that there is little social trust between say ethnic Germans, French, Swedes, etc. and their Muslim neighbors.

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Your second to last paragraph is making some assumptions about how the relationships work that I do not think are at all reasonable, being much more likely to be driven by third things than the 1:1 relationships.

Home Ownership: Is it the fact that people own instead of rent, or the fact that people who own tend to live in the same place longer (so you know each other) and the fact that the sorts of people who save up enough to buy a house and maintain it tend to be more trustworthy people? In other words, do you think that if we just gave houses to everyone the average level of trustworthiness would go up?

Population Density: Probably helps, although probably as a function of how many bad actors there will be in an area. The power laws in play in crime and other bad behavior make the absolute number of bad people in an area more relevant than the percentage.

Commuting Time: This seems to be a proxy for density, but possibly is also due to the "lots of people I don't know around all the time." Not confident at all, but I would guess trust goes up when people see a smaller number of people and can track their behaviors better.

Better Policing: I think you are spot on here, with the addition of "actually prosecuting crimes". This reduces the absolute number of criminals, and thus the relevant number of crimes. One point about decriminalizing, however, is that decriminalizing murder won't make people feel more trusting. It is less that things are illegal in the legislative sense that matters and more about whether the actual norms are being followed. The link between crime rate and trust is broken here; you could declare being Amish illegal tomorrow, and despite the crime rate skyrocketing their intragroup social trust measure wouldn't go down.

Citizenship: This seems a strange assertion. It doesn't seem likely to me that there mere fact of citizenship is what is driving low trust here. People don't learn citizenship status and then derive how much they trust someone based on that, but rather impute citizenship status based on other signals. As such, lower rates of citizenship correlate with lower rates of trust almost certainly because the behaviors of non-citizens are such that trust goes down (likely among both citizens AND non-citizens!) That might be to differences in norms and expectations, or outright bad behavior, whatever, but it is nearly infeasible that what is causing the distrust is knowledge of someone's citizenship status, such that changing that status with a swipe of the pen would affect trust.

(You might be able to test that, in fact, by looking at trust based on various levels of "you are allowed to be here", comparing ratios of visas, green cards, naturalized citizens, and how those societies trust each other. Getting data would be hard, I suspect.)

In all, that second to last paragraph seems to be demanding a cry of "Correlation does not equal causation!" Possibly also a reminder that trying to put pressure on one side of a statistical regularity is unlikely to be effective at changing the other side.

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