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Kenny Easwaran's avatar

I don't see how this is a challenge for consequentialism. If there's a really good case that punishing families is going to lead to a lot better prevention, then maybe it's worth doing - but the kinds of crimes that have been hard to prevent are often ones where the criminal is estranged from their family, or has no family, and punishing the family is going to be extra ineffective in those cases.

If anything, it seems to me that retributivism opens the door much *more* to family punishment. Retributivism raises a question that consequentialism doesn't, namely the one about which entity it is right to take retribution out against. The most common answer in a modern liberal society is going to be the individual whose body is a continuant of the body that committed the crime, but if we ever develop Star Trek style teleportation, or if we are convinced of the possibility of a rehabilitated person really being a new person, then we might change our mind. Historically, retributivists probably actually endorsed the view that the family was the body that is relevant. There's nothing the least bit in tension with the core retributivist idea to say this, and so family punishment should be a core question for retributivism, in a way that it's unlikely to be for consequentialists, who can appeal to empirical facts about how much criminals care about their families to nip this in the bud.

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James Hudson's avatar

Family punishment is incompatible with individualism, which—at least under modern conditions—is the best social system. Family punishment forces families, rather than individual people, to be the primary units of social agency. Families will decide what is to be done, producing less socially beneficial actions. Your family will be able to veto your plans, just as community groups now veto developers’ plans for the construction of housing.

By the way, the advocate of family punishment must specify how *extended* the “family” supposed to be. A consequentialist would say: the proper size of the unit for responsibility and punishment is that which makes for the best consequences overall, in the long run. And the likely answer is that the best sized unit is *a single person*.

Pursuing still further the direction from individualism to familialism, we find nationalism--the whole nation as "family."

(Question: if a more or less extended family were the chosen unit, what would happen to people without families?)

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